• George Nacht (unregistered) in reply to ethan
    ethan:
    The real WTF is that when faced with malfunctioning registers, the staff gave away free food and turned customers away instead of just... doing the math by hand. Or hell, even using a $0.50 pocket calculator.

    Have we as a species really become this helpless?

    Not only helpless, we are victims. The worst thing is not a system, which broke down, it is system which broke down AND STILL requires to be used. In three words, taxes and customs. More than once I had to postpone the truck with critical equipment, desperately needed somewhere, just because some irreplaceable and irresponsible bumbler screwed up, locked up the system which generates custom documents and went home earlier that day. Sorry for rant, this story kicked me too close to kidneys....

  • George Nacht (unregistered) in reply to ethan
    ethan:
    The real WTF is that when faced with malfunctioning registers, the staff gave away free food and turned customers away instead of just... doing the math by hand. Or hell, even using a $0.50 pocket calculator.

    Have we as a species really become this helpless?

    Not only helpless, we are victims. The worst thing is not a system, which broke down, it is system which broke down AND STILL requires to be used. In three words, taxes and customs. More than once I had to postpone the truck with critical equipment, desperately needed somewhere, just because some irreplaceable and irresponsible bumbler screwed up, locked up the system which generates custom documents and went home earlier that day. Sorry for rant, this story kicked me too close to kidneys....

  • mizchief (unregistered)

    This is where I pull out my favorite line. "Your lack of planning is not my emergency."

    My boss used to have the problem of selling software we didn't have under impossible time frames. The guys that worked before me would always pull the all nighters and hack togather some crappy solution to bail his ass out.

    As you can imagine this lead to pissed off customers and low revenue and low salaries, so eventually those guys quit. So when the bossman comes by my desk at 4:30 on friday wanting something done by monday, I tell him tough shit it will take me untill the next friday, and he has to man up to the clients. Of course the boss is not happy with this and when he finally did say some shit like "your on salary your expected to put in extra time" I just ask him if he would rather I stop saying "no" to the 5 recrutiers that call me each day.

    Now, we have planned release cycles and the customers are sold products we actually have, which are now tested and maintainable, so our sales are growing, we flip new installs faster, I get to enjoy life outside of work, and we are about to cash in with some investors.

    Moral of this rant is that you have to stand up to the business guys that only care about making a sale and make sure you do your job right. If your boss doesn't want to pay for quality software there are lots of growing software shops that will.

  • jim steichen (unregistered) in reply to mrprogguy

    What a great idea! All we have to do is:

    1. Write some software to make integral batches of donut batter.
    2. ???
    3. PROFIT!
    4. Get our fingers torn off by out-of-work donut hole makers :((
  • (cs) in reply to Mike L
    Mike L:
    lol.. I don't know that I would actually say "incapable of doing". I've been doing it for them, and (according to my client)doing it well, for the last 4+ years.

    I expected people to imply the caveat that "incapable of doing" was referring to "incapable of doing the job promised in the prescribed time limit with whatever checks deemed necessary to ensure that the work was correct."

    I am not saying that you are a poor worker, or that you are inexperienced. Even the best programmers in the world would be incapable of writing correct code, no matter how simple, in a sufficiently short time.

    You, yourself admitted that the time limit was insufficent for you to do the job as you knew it should be done.

  • bramster (unregistered) in reply to Mike L
    Mike L:
    lol.. I don't know that I would actually say "incapable of doing". I've been doing it for them, and (according to my client)doing it well, for the last 4+ years. Yes, this was an F-up, but since that was one F-up over the course of several hundred of these updates, my performance isn't that bad.

    As far as the 7k goes, two things: First I offered it, they did not ask for it.

    Second: I didn't offer it because I was afraid of lawsuits or anything; I offered it because it was the right thing to do. I beleive in putting my money where my mouth is, and it was fair to offer them a discount for their inconvenience.

    oh, and I don't have a contract with them, just a verbal understanding. Funny thing is, in the 4+ years I've been doing this for them, I've only actually seen my client face to face twice.

    Amen.

    I'm still doing business with my 1994 client. $7000 in Mike's case is "putting your money where your mouth is".

    In my case, it was hard to see the positive side, at the time, of paying out $12,000. But, in retrospect, it was probably one of my better business decisions. . .

    On the other hand. . . Is anyone out there in the market for a really nice little airplane? Cessna 172, 1966, 4700 hours with a zero-time engine.

    Oh, yes, I bought it AFTER the 1994 problem. Just shows to go you. . .

  • (cs)

    Another case where management was penny-wise and pound-foolish - again.

    Another thing: dbase III equals MS-DOS as an OS - DOS (Denial-of-Service Attack).

    OK - weak pun.

  • (cs) in reply to b0b g0ats3
    b0b g0ats3:
    OH GOD OH GOD UNNNNGH MY ERECTION RAN OUT OF SKIN

    YYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You are circumcised - so what ???!!!

  • (cs) in reply to Joe
    Joe:
    eric76:
    Sigivald:
    I see you've never been in a jurisdiction where the tax rules are complex (ie, many of them, especially back East).

    Just charge the highest sales tax rate on everything and remit the entire amount to the state.

    I called the Texas State Comptroller's office one day and asked them what happens when someone charges more than the correct sales tax rate. The answer given was that as long as the vendor remits all the sales tax collected to the state, they don't care. They only get concerned when you send too little, whatever the reason.

    This is different from the mafia how?

    If the thieves are the government then thieving is policy.

  • (cs) in reply to Mike L
    Mike L:
    lol.. I don't know that I would actually say "incapable of doing". I've been doing it for them, and (according to my client)doing it well, for the last 4+ years. Yes, this was an F-up, but since that was one F-up over the course of several hundred of these updates, my performance isn't that bad.

    As far as the 7k goes, two things: First I offered it, they did not ask for it.

    Second: I didn't offer it because I was afraid of lawsuits or anything; I offered it because it was the right thing to do. I beleive in putting my money where my mouth is, and it was fair to offer them a discount for their inconvenience.

    oh, and I don't have a contract with them, just a verbal understanding. Funny thing is, in the 4+ years I've been doing this for them, I've only actually seen my client face to face twice.

    Business by handshake. For you "big corporate guys": There are still people who do business in that way. It is a good way to do business but lawyers hate it: it makes them superfluous.

    Addendum (2008-05-16 03:12): It also means accepting responsibilities for f----ups by both parties in cases like this by keeping things in perspective.

  • iMalc (unregistered)

    I was going to add my 2 cents, but I think I'll hold back for fear of being overcharged.

  • Tom_fan_63 (unregistered) in reply to DZ-Jay
    DZ-Jay:
    AC:
    ounos:
    Andrew:
    - past tense of LEAD is LED
    I seem to have red this somewhere else too.

    You're write, I've seen it somewhere too.

    Your both wright! I red all that somewere to.

    -dZ.</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Come one, lets stop this noonsense!

  • (cs)

    POS = Piece Of

    Enough Said

  • (cs) in reply to mrprogguy
    mrprogguy:
    Hatshepsut:

    In Australia donuts are tax-exempt because they qualify (however tenuously) as food, but the holes aren't because they are clearly non-food. The tax office consistently refuses to issue a standard ruling on the matter. Mayhem.

    I don't know why they would. The gap in the middle of a donut doesn't have any donut in it,

    Which is why it's taxed differently.

    mrprogguy:
    and once you break apart the donut, the hole disappears.

    Once I spend my income it disappears, but I still get taxed on it. And although it's nominally taken out before I receive my pay, officially I'm taxed on it at the end of the year, when it's long gone.

    mrprogguy:
    Surely one doesn't tax empty space, even in Australia?

    Sure they do. There's so much of it, how could they resist?

  • P.C (unregistered)

    Any chance you could get rid of the creepy scientology ads that are now appearing on the site?

  • SpamBot (unregistered) in reply to Paweł
    Paweł:
    ethan:
    The real WTF is that when faced with malfunctioning registers, the staff gave away free food and turned customers away instead of just... doing the math by hand. Or hell, even using a $0.50 pocket calculator.

    At least here you just have to give the client the slip from the register for every sale. Even if you can do the math you just can't sell anyting without a working register (unless you want to take the risk of being charged with tampering with the records).

    what is wrong with a hand-written receipt? Some places still do things that way anyway. *And* I have been refused the advertised price by till workers who insist they can't change what's in the system ...
  • El Fredo (unregistered) in reply to ParkinT
    ParkinT:
    And please tell me the meaning of WIND Is it a noun referring to "the breeze"? Or is it a verb denoting the process used to energize a clock?
    They're simply homographs. All languages have some, nothing to get hung about. You get the meaning from the context.
  • (cs) in reply to Andrew
    Andrew:
    "...lead towards disasterous consequences.."
    • past tense of LEAD is LED
    • DISASTROUS : you can catch that one with a spellchecker.

    grrrrrrrrr

    Present synonym for "pedantic asshat" is "Andrew". grrrrrrr!

    Grammar Nazis suck. This is a technology site, not an English grammar/spelling site. Go somewhere else to be a prick.

  • Paolo G (unregistered) in reply to Andrew
    Andrew:
    "...lead towards disasterous consequences.."
    • past tense of LEAD is LED
    • DISASTROUS : you can catch that one with a spellchecker.

    grrrrrrrrr

    The author/editor must have his hands over his ears be saying, "La, la, la, can't hear you!" because they're still there...

    CAPTCHA: facilisis - it's easy enough to change these things, surely?

  • The real wtf fool (unregistered) in reply to P.C
    P.C:
    Any chance you could get rid of the creepy scientology ads that are now appearing on the site?

    Using firefox/mozilla put this in chrome/userContent.css:

    @-moz-document url-prefix(http://thedailywtf.com) {

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	visibility: hidden;
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    Also gets rid of all the annoying side and top navigation areas too...

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to P.C
    P.C:
    Any chance you could get rid of the creepy scientology ads that are now appearing on the site?
    Once those started appearing, I pretty much just started assuming Alex was a scientologist. Nobody else would run those ads.
  • (cs) in reply to KenW
    KenW:
    Grammar Nazis suck. This is a technology site, not an English grammar/spelling site. Go somewhere else to be a prick.

    Simple math is an obvious requirement for the job of cashier (or should be). We can poke fun at the cashiers who can't do arithmetic. Writing simple English is an obvious requirement for posting on this site. We can poke fun at (or helpfully correct) those who can't spell or form proper sentences. (Exceptions should be made for typographical errors and those for whom English is a second language. English is difficult.)

  • ingenium (unregistered) in reply to El Fredo
    El Fredo:
    <Ow! My Balls!>
  • (cs) in reply to Bill Lumbergh
    Bill Lumbergh:
    I don't know where you are located but tax computation can be complicated. We have federal, state and sometimes a combination city and county taxes.

    Great! That's terrific information, if you happen to be running a large retail establishment that sells a vast assortment of different items.

    However, we're talking a fast food restaurant here. They sell quick-service food, all of which is taxable (or not, depending on your locale). There's no difference in the tax being charged for onion rings and the tax on a burger. And I, at least, know that the tax being used on fast food purchases in my area is 8.5%. (I also know that only 4% of that is state tax, and that the rest is county and local taxes, but who cares? My burger and fries and soft drink are taxed at 8.5% of the total purchase.)

    The people who work in a fast food restaurant that aren't capable of figuring out taxes on the order manually are the same ones who see me every single day, five days a week, when I stop at the same place for coffee and a bagel and yet can't remember from one day to the next that I like my coffee black and my bagel with butter on the side. They're morons who shouldn't be working anywhere outside a landfill or cleaning a toilet.

  • (cs) in reply to Timo
    Timo:
    The obvious WTF aside (not falling back to manual backup procedures - lack of those would be another WTF)... Am I the only one who thinks that the Amurrican sales tax system is kind of a WTF? Perhaps not to those who have been used to it, but here in Finland (and in at least most of the EU) the price of a good or service which is given to the customer (consumer, more properly) (the price, that is) has to include VAT. Therefore, if the registers fail, the clerk/waiter/whatever only has to add up whatever price is printed on the menu. The tax payable to the IRS-equivalent can be figured out later from the itemized receipts by the accounting department. Simpler, no?

    No. The same, yes.

    The only difference is that in your case someone is doing the VAT calculation up front (and then again afterwards to report the correct amount), where the US system does it once afterwards in order to charge it AND keep it separate for reporting. The end result is the same.

  • (cs) in reply to Andrew
    Andrew:
    - past tense of LEAD is LED
    He may have gotten confused by reading "Led Zeppelin" too many times. After all, logically it should be "Lead Zeppelin", unless they had in mind some guy pulling a dirigible along on a leash.

    At that, though, they probably got it right. If they'd gone with "Lead Zeppelin", doubtless everybody would have pronounced it "leed zeplin".

  • Frunobulax (unregistered) in reply to Tom_fan_63
    Tom_fan_63:
    DZ-Jay:
    AC:
    ounos:
    Andrew:
    - past tense of LEAD is LED
    I seem to have red this somewhere else too.

    You're write, I've seen it somewhere too.

    Your both wright! I red all that somewere to.

    -dZ.</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Come one, lets stop this noonsense!

    Your both rite--I red all that sum wear two.

    Butt seriously, forks--lettuce stop this nun cents.

  • (cs) in reply to Joe
    Joe:
    rast:
    Joe:
    Bill Lumbergh:
    I doubt most people are aware the burden our tax system puts on commerce.

    Some of us are: [image]

    Cool, now we can burden poor people instead.

    (this is not meant as a defense of the current fucked up tax system)

    Apparently you missed the top of the front page where they give you this: "A prebate to ensure no American pays federal taxes on spending up to the poverty level."

    Care to restate your comment?

    BTW, it was the father of communism Karl Marx who stated in his manifesto that a country should have a strongly progressive tax system. Funny how that's how this country turned out. Soak the rich!

    Prebate = Welfare.

    So, let's skip all the hoopla and just put the ENTIRE FRIGGIN COUNTRY on WELFARE. <sarcasm>Good idea that one.</sarcasm>

    Oh, and the fair tax is STILL a progressive tax. Obviously you haven't read it through.

    Here's a nice little analysis: http://www.mises.org/story/2961

  • DC (unregistered) in reply to AC
    AC:
    ounos:
    Andrew:
    - past tense of LEAD is LED
    I seem to have red this somewhere else too.
    You're write, I've seen it somewhere too.
    Yes, eye've seen it two.
  • (cs) in reply to jaxad0127
    jaxad0127:
    Timo:
    The obvious WTF aside (not falling back to manual backup procedures - lack of those would be another WTF)... Am I the only one who thinks that the Amurrican sales tax system is kind of a WTF? Perhaps not to those who have been used to it, but here in Finland (and in at least most of the EU) the price of a good or service which is given to the customer (consumer, more properly) (the price, that is) has to include VAT. Therefore, if the registers fail, the clerk/waiter/whatever only has to add up whatever price is printed on the menu. The tax payable to the IRS-equivalent can be figured out later from the itemized receipts by the accounting department. Simpler, no?
    Because that is (basically) illegal (see McCulloch v. Maryland).

    What the fuck does that case have to do with including the tax amount on advertised prices for goods and services?

  • (cs) in reply to SpamBot
    SpamBot:
    *And* I have been refused the advertised price by till workers who insist they can't change what's in the system ...

    Ask them to get their manager. If the manager refuses (they won't), ask for them to put it in writing that they're refusing to sell at the advertised price.

  • Finanzminister (unregistered) in reply to KenW
    KenW:
    However, we're talking a fast food restaurant here. They sell quick-service food, all of which is taxable (or not, depending on your locale). There's no difference in the tax being charged for onion rings and the tax on a burger.
    In Germany, even a fast food restaurant can be more complicated than that. Apparently the tax rate varies depending on whether you eat the food right there or take it out with you. (Yes, in either case the tax rate on the onion rings would probably be the same as the tax rate on the burger.)
  • Mike L (unregistered) in reply to Finanzminister

    I'm not sure if they still do, but Florida used to have the same thing called a "dine in tax". If you go inside, you're taxed, if you go through the drive-thru, you're not taxed.

    I gather the idea was to pick up extra money from tourists, who are more likely to dine in

  • Chris (unregistered)

    Has anyone else not questioned why couldn't the restaurant staff add up the prices without the computers? No need to turn away customers.

  • (cs) in reply to Chris
    Chris:
    Has anyone else not questioned why couldn't the restaurant staff add up the prices without the computers? No need to turn away customers.

    No, absolutely not one person in the 127 posts before yours brought that up. You were really the only person to think of that. Congratulations.

  • Jay (unregistered)

    Not to comment on how practical it would be for sales clerks to calculate tax, but just to join in the general fun of discussing the paperwork burden of sales tax:

    I used to run a little mail-order business on the side when I lived in Ohio. Sales tax was calculated based on the address to which the product was delivered, with over 90 different rates for various places in the state. Most were based on the COUNTY. As customer's do not normally include their county in their mailing address, I had to figure it out. You can't just look at the city because some cities cross county lines, and many people in unincorproated areas give the name of the nearest city, same county or not. Oh, those not based on a county were places that had surcharges to fund public transportation. Exactly how far out does the Cleveland bus system go? Even if your business is in Cincinnati (the opposite end of the state), you are expected to look at an address of a place 300 miles away and know if they are within the bounds of the bus system. So I had to go to a web site run by the state and enter the address to find the county. Maybe they provided an interface so that a big operation could automate this, but I had to do it manually.

    Then, the law specifically says that you must charge the customer the EXACT correct amount of sales tax, to the penny, using the state's obscure rounding rules. You wouldn't think they'd do something as simple as ".5 or more round up, otherwise round down", would you? No, they had a table where you had to look it up. (They did later give the alternative of using a formula.) So if the customer sends a check that is two cents too high, you must send them a refund. Indeed, the law specifically states that it is illegal for the company to pay any portion of the sales tax for the customer. So if a customer sends you a check that is two cents short, you cannot simply toss in the two cents yourself. You are required by law to contact the customer and tell them that you cannot ship the merchandise until they send you another two cents.

  • Jay (unregistered)

    He got TWO DAYS warning of a change request? Wow! Around here, the attitude is, "Of course we need this today. If we didn't need it until tomorrow, why would we have bothered bringing it up today?"

  • Thunder (unregistered) in reply to gabba
    gabba:
    Why did Mike agree to the $7000 discount? They're the ones who wanted the rush job done. They accepted the risk.
    Assuming that Mike clearly explained the risk to them...
  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to clively
    clively:
    Prebate = Welfare.

    So, let's skip all the hoopla and just put the ENTIRE FRIGGIN COUNTRY on WELFARE. <sarcasm>Good idea that one.</sarcasm>

    Oh, and the fair tax is STILL a progressive tax. Obviously you haven't read it through.

    More political rambling on a software site, but hey, life is fun.

    If the prebate is "the entire country on welfare", do you consider all tax deductions "welfare"? I think there's a big difference between "a lower tax than you might have had to pay under a different set of laws" and "welfare".

    As best as I can figure from what I've read of the so-called Fair Tax, some small number of people might get more back in the prebate than they paid in taxes, namely, people who spend less than 23% of the federal poverty line. (If anyone really knows, please enlighten me.) But under current law they'd be qualifying for the earned income credit, so it's not like it's a totally new idea. If you're going to have welfare, in my humble opinion a system that says, "We will give you 23 cents for every dollar you are below poverty level" is a pretty good idea. There's always an incentive to get a job or get a better job and make more money. Under present welfare rules -- and even more so before the reforms of the 1990's -- there are/were situations where a person would lose money by getting a job: He'd lose more in welfare benefits than he would make by working.

    By the way, yes, the Fair Tax is progressive: the rate ranges from 0% for those living at poverty level asymptotically approaching 23% for the very wealthy. The previous poster didn't say that the Fair Tax isn't progressive, just that the system we're presently using is. It's not clear to me from his post whether he thought that the Fair Tax would change that, or if he was just pointing out that it is generally accepted in America today that all taxes must be progressive.

    Side note: Why are legislative proposals always given self-serving names, like "Fair Tax"? Why not something descriptive, like "National Income Tax"? It seems like every new bill is the "something-something Reform Act", even if the "reform" is to change it back to what it was before the previous reform. Laws whose stated goal is to keep the price of some product high to benefit a big campaign contributor are always called the "something-something Consumer Protection Act", laws designed to protect corrupt politicians are called "Ethics in Government Act", etc. Okay, I don't expect them to call it the "Give millions of tax dollars to my brother-in-law in return for some useless make-work Bill", but couldn't they at least give it a neutral name? What amazes me even more is when political commentators talk as if these self-serving names should be taken as gospel, like when they say, "Senator Jones actually opposed the Be Nice to Cuddly Puppies Bill! How can anyone be against being nice to cuddly puppies?!" Like, we can't even consider the possibility that the title of the bill may be only tangentially related to what it actually does, or that it might have worthy goals but nevertheless be counter-productive, or any of a million other possible objections.

    </rant>
  • (cs) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    Not to comment on how practical it would be for sales clerks to calculate tax, but just to join in the general fun of discussing the paperwork burden of sales tax:

    I used to run a little mail-order business on the side when I lived in Ohio. Sales tax was calculated based on the address to which the product was delivered, with over 90 different rates for various places in the state. Most were based on the COUNTY. As customer's do not normally include their county in their mailing address, I had to figure it out. You can't just look at the city because some cities cross county lines, and many people in unincorproated areas give the name of the nearest city, same county or not. Oh, those not based on a county were places that had surcharges to fund public transportation. Exactly how far out does the Cleveland bus system go? Even if your business is in Cincinnati (the opposite end of the state), you are expected to look at an address of a place 300 miles away and know if they are within the bounds of the bus system. So I had to go to a web site run by the state and enter the address to find the county. Maybe they provided an interface so that a big operation could automate this, but I had to do it manually.

    Then, the law specifically says that you must charge the customer the EXACT correct amount of sales tax, to the penny, using the state's obscure rounding rules. You wouldn't think they'd do something as simple as ".5 or more round up, otherwise round down", would you? No, they had a table where you had to look it up. (They did later give the alternative of using a formula.) So if the customer sends a check that is two cents too high, you must send them a refund. Indeed, the law specifically states that it is illegal for the company to pay any portion of the sales tax for the customer. So if a customer sends you a check that is two cents short, you cannot simply toss in the two cents yourself. You are required by law to contact the customer and tell them that you cannot ship the merchandise until they send you another two cents.

    You're not allowed to discount the price if the check is two cents short? And you're not allowed to give them store credit if they overpay?

    Addendum (2008-05-16 13:32): I hope the state is paying all the postage for those two-cent checks

  • (cs) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    clively:
    Prebate = Welfare.

    So, let's skip all the hoopla and just put the ENTIRE FRIGGIN COUNTRY on WELFARE. <sarcasm>Good idea that one.</sarcasm>

    Oh, and the fair tax is STILL a progressive tax. Obviously you haven't read it through.

    More political rambling on a software site, but hey, life is fun.

    If the prebate is "the entire country on welfare", do you consider all tax deductions "welfare"? I think there's a big difference between "a lower tax than you might have had to pay under a different set of laws" and "welfare".

    Let's be fair, there's also a big difference between getting cash at the beginning of the year before you've put down a cent on the sales tax, and "a lower tax". It's basically an interest-free loan.

  • Ruri (unregistered) in reply to ethan
    ethan:
    The real WTF is that when faced with malfunctioning registers, the staff gave away free food and turned customers away instead of just... doing the math by hand. Or hell, even using a $0.50 pocket calculator.

    Have we as a species really become this helpless?

    My thought exactly. Where I work, a petrol station, if the PoS is down for any reason, we get out a pad, pen and calculator, and write down everything manually so it can be entered into the system when its back up. Honestly.

  • davel (unregistered) in reply to Flash
    Flash:
    Simple math is an obvious requirement for the job of cashier (or should be). We can poke fun at the cashiers who can't do arithmetic.

    I've only seen two applications for waitstaff / cashiers. These were for Denny's and Waffle House, both low-end diner type places. Both applications were almost entirely doing change and sales tax by hand. At Waffle House, they do the receipts by hand in practice, but they have a calculator. It's the fastfood places that deal with complete idiots because the register doesn't even have numbers on it anymore, just pictures of the food.

    The MacDonald's I went to this morning had changed a lot of their prices. The fellow next to me while I was waiting on mine noticed this and complained that his bill seemed to be high. "Oh, don't pay any attention to what's on the sign; what's in the register is right!" Uh, no.

  • Steve (unregistered) in reply to ObiWayneKenobi
    ObiWayneKenobi:
    Steve:
    The Mafia doesn't provide things like schools and streets and sewer systems and most of the things which make civilized life possible?

    Neither do taxes... just that your average ignorant, sheep American thinks they do and so sees nothing wrong with the system.

    Uh huh.

    I guess they just build and maintain themselves.

    Silly me.

    Baaaaaaaaa.

  • Brad (unregistered)

    Let me get this right. The PoS system starts going haywire and is then shut down. Fine. But what the hell is wrong with the people working at these restaurants? They can't figure bills with pen and paper for a day? This is the real WTF. A pain to be sure, but definitely doable.

  • ChiefCrazyTalk (unregistered)

    The real WTF is that they called him Wednesday to have a problem fixed by Friday. More realistically, they would have notified him 5:00 PM on Thursday.

  • (cs) in reply to The real wtf fool
    The real wtf fool:
    Using firefox/mozilla put this in chrome/userContent.css:

    (random CSS)

    Also gets rid of all the annoying side and top navigation areas too...

    But no ads means no Irish Girl.

  • Troll/on (unregistered) in reply to Russ
    Russ:
    El Fredo:
    snoofle:
    ethan:
    Have we as a species really become this helpless?
    What do you figure the odds are that if this restaurant has automatic door openers, that if the software glitched out, that the employees would be "trapped" inside rather than simly push the door open?
    <insert Idiocracy quotes here> Drink water? Like from the toilet? Drink Brawndo! Brawndo has electrolytes. </insert Idiocracy quotes here>

    Parse error: <insert> cannot have 'Idiocracy' attribute. Parse error: 'Idiocracy' attribute not assigned a value. Parse error: <insert> cannot have 'quotes' attribute. Parse error: 'quote' attribute not assigned a value. Parse error: <insert> cannot have 'here' attribute. Parse error: 'here' attribute not assigned a value.

  • tabarnak! (unregistered) in reply to tezoatlipoca

    well, here in Quebec, we have the privilege of paying tax on tax. GST (federal tax) is 5% PST (provincial tax) is 7.5%. does that mean we are paying 12.5% in taxes?

    nope. it's actually 12.875%

    The total is calculated as ((subtotal*1.05)*1.075)

  • Indi Gestion (unregistered)

    The only thing missing from the supplies when you opened the box was a single Imodium pill and a neatly folded pile of Charmin for the impending instestinal explosion.

    I think the slogan that really needed to be there is: "You'll crack porcelin!"

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