• (disco)

    51 comments and nobody's pointed out that Oracle are using MySQL rather than Oracle?

  • (disco) in reply to immibis_
    immibis_:
    51 comments and nobody's pointed out that Oracle are using MySQL rather than Oracle?

    Haven't they owned MySQL for a while now too?

  • (disco) in reply to immibis_
    immibis_:
    51 comments and nobody's pointed out that Oracle are using MySQL rather than Oracle?

    Oracle is using an Oracle product instead of an Oracle product?!

    OMG!

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa
    < NaN.toFixed(2)
    > "NaN"
    

    Well, that was disappointing.

  • (disco) in reply to immibis_

    I finally created a DIscourse account just to point this out. Yes, Oracle bought MySQL some time ago, as the previous responders point out. I can't help but wonder if this conversation happened that same day or the next ... WebDev: "Hey, boss, I saw the press release about us buying MySQL. Me and the team were wondering ..." Boss: "Yes?" WebDev: "Well, the company policy about using our own products for all dev work ... Does this mean that now we could change the website backend to use MySQL?" Boss: "Well, I guess you could ,if ..." WebDev: "Oh, thank God. HEY GUYS, HE SAID IT'S OK!" (Cheering from dev team in background) Boss: "Wait. Don't you all have years of experience using Oracle, and deep knowledge of all its quirks and unique, special qualities?" WebDev: "Yes. That's why we want to switch the website to MySQL."

  • (disco) in reply to S_Christian_Simmons

    You know, that reeks of insider knowledge...

  • (disco) in reply to LorenPechtel
    LorenPechtel:
    The hotel one is not in Latin. That's Lorem Ipsum

    Lorem Ipsum is based on a Latin text but it's not strict Latin.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum

    Gurth:
    More likely, it was used in order to avoid having to have Dutch or French text for something located in Brussels, as either of them is likely to cause no end of trouble in ■■■■■■■.

    Doubtful since it is in the English version. Smells more like content that was not filled or a dummy content item that was not removed. Not saying that such a thing wouldn't cause political knives to be drawn ... In IT when language is a discussion point a move forward was often made by adopting English. Even in entrenched/governmental environments having English documentation, training and language in code was chosen above either choosing Dutch or French.

  • (disco) in reply to Luhmann
    Luhmann:
    In IT when language is a discussion point a move forward was often made by adopting English. Even in entrenched/governmental environments having English documentation, training and language in code was chosen above either choosing Dutch or French.

    Belgium is TRWTF indeed.

  • (disco) in reply to LorenPechtel

    whoosh

    Filed under: [Whoosh][1]

    [1]: .

  • (disco) in reply to Luhmann
    Luhmann:
    Doubtful since it is in the English version.
    I was making a humorously-intended observation on the state of Belgian language politics, not a serious statement on why someone would use “Lorem ipsum” as a text on a web page intended to convey actual information to the reader.
  • (disco) in reply to Gurth
    Gurth:
    the state of Belgian language politics

    They are Belgium-ed beyond repair. The question is not if a new issue will arise it is merely when and what it will be exactly ... will one of the members of the Flemish Nationalists start it? Or some royal? Get out those betting forms! We used to have bets on the time it would take to form a government no we can have bets on how long this one will last ...

  • (disco)

    My bet is that when it does happen, nobody will take the news about it seriously at first due to RTBF’s stunt from a few years ago.

  • (disco) in reply to Luhmann
    In IT when language is a discussion point a move forward was often made by adopting English. Even in entrenched/governmental environments having English documentation, training and language in code was chosen above either choosing Dutch or French.

    I must've missed that in the years I worked for the Ministry ("Federal Public Service") of ■■■■■■■ then (which was until 01/2014). I had to give my courses to the IT personnel in both Dutch and French because English is not an official language and not everyone knows enough English. My documentation I wrote in English, but I had to translate it to Dutch and French. The only reason German wasn't included is that only two guys were German speaking and didn't mind doing everything in French.

    In any case, I was glad that the new server roll-out was in English and with a single domain. On the old systems, when giving all users permissions to a certain directory, I had to do "All Users" on one system and "Toutes les utilisateurs" on another. Or log in as "Administrator" here and "Administrateur" there (this was before it became best practice to disable the default Admin account).

  • (disco) in reply to blakeyrat
    blakeyrat:
    Oracle is using an Oracle product instead of an Oracle product?!

    Oracle is using the worst bottom-rung poor excuse for a database instead of their flagship product. Regardless of how good their flagship is (it's not great), that says something about what they think of it.

  • (disco) in reply to S_Christian_Simmons
    S_Christian_Simmons:
    Boss: "Wait. Don't you all have years of experience using Oracle, and deep knowledge of all its quirks and unique, special qualities?"

    Pretending that MySQL doesn't have any quirks and unique, "special" abilities?

    Pretending that it would be worth the cost of conversion if you're already using Oracle?

    Hah! You're funny.

  • (disco) in reply to YellowOnline
    YellowOnline:
    I must've missed that in the years I worked for the Ministry ("Federal Public Service") of ■■■■■■■ then (which was until 01/2014).

    Strange, then again I was only an external consultant mostly buried away at least two levels of consultants. So maybe that was how we got away with only having documentation & training in English for server applications with an English only interface. :grin:

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    Lrn2FixedPoi.nt

  • (disco) in reply to immibis_
    immibis_:
    51 comments and nobody's pointed out that Oracle are using MySQL rather than Oracle?
    68 comments and nobody's pointed out that OraclePress are owned by McGraw-Hill rather than Oracle?
  • (disco) in reply to riking

    Fuck this font!

    [image]

    Lm2? Dafuq is Lm2?

    It's Arial btw. Wait... how could Arial...

    Oh, I'm at 90% zoom. Webkiiiit! *shakes fist*

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx

    Is it WebKit, or is it Discokerning? :laughing:

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    Is it WebKit, or is it Discokerning? :laughing:

    How would you even break ker...

    No, wait, I don't want to know.

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx

    What were they thinking, allowing negative values for CSS letter-spacing? :laughing:

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    I don't see it in the stylesheet. Though it might be possible that the browser does that, and it doesn't show up in the computed sheet in the inspector.

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx

    …yeah. It looks fine in Firefox, so it does look like a Chrome issue.

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    Discokerning
    Is now [defined](http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/teh-o-cial-discopaedia-abarker-creator-and-prophet-of-the-discopaedia/3866/521?u=raceprouk) <!-- Emoji'd by MobileEmoji 0.2.0-->
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    …yeah. It looks fine in Firefox, so it does look like a Chrome issue.

    Looks fine to me, but then I'm on OSX which seems to have a reasonable system font renderer.

  • (disco) in reply to dkf

    Fine for me as well on default zoom. But since I find it too large and requiring too much scrolling I keep it at 90%

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    Fine for me as well on default zoom. But since I find it too large and requiring too much scrolling I keep it at 90%

    I tried with both the default and the 90% zoom, and on both a high DPI and a normal screen. :smile: All combinations were fine, though normal/90% was close to being hard to read and I could imagine a renderer bug making things worse. I know for sure that such rendering bugs have existed in the past on Windows and Linux (I even found the same bug on those two platforms in independent codebases once, where I knew they'd never compared notes. Certain kinds of rounding error are very distinctive. ;))

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    Oh, I'm at 90% zoom.
    :headdesk: Didn't notice this earlier…

    Anyway, I zoomed out in Firefox (to what percentage I have no idea; the fox likes to keep it secret :wtf:), and didn;t get text ambiguity until I zoomed out to what I assume was 50%.

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    to what percentage I have no idea; the fox likes to keep it secret
    [image]

    :P

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx

    Because that's an obvious place to put it :wtf:

    Why not put it on the Status Bar? *looks* …oh. There isn't one :wtf:×2

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    I just checked, and it doesn't seem to be in an obvious place in IE or Chrome either. In Chrome it is in the same place as Firefox, and in IE it is in the "View" menu. So who is TRWTF, all browsers or me (who can't find it)?

  • (disco) in reply to Vault_Dweller
    Vault_Dweller:
    So who is TRWTF
    Browsers, definitely. Office has the zoom in the status bar, as does GIMP. As does most software that has a zoom function. <!-- Emoji'd by MobileEmoji 0.2.0-->
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    I think part of the problem is that browsers don't have a status bar anymore

  • (disco) in reply to Vault_Dweller

    Opera keeps it in it's single menu... thing as well. I'd call it a hamburger, but it's actually labeled "Opera" :P

    [image]
  • (disco) in reply to Vault_Dweller
    Vault_Dweller:
    I think part of the problem is that browsers don't have a status bar anymore

    You say that as if it's a bad thing? Most of the things that are put in a status bar are useless (to most, most of the time) anyway and just reduces the amount of usable screen real estate.

  • (disco) in reply to Mikael_Svahnberg

    The zoom level should be one of those things that's front and centre though. Well, not centre; that'd be annoying. In the corner's OK though :smile:

    Edit: So, you can do it in Firefox: [image]

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    Maybe it's just me, but I rarely change zoom level on a web page. Why do you do that so often that it warrants such a prominent placing?

  • (disco) in reply to Mikael_Svahnberg

    I don't change the zoom at all, unless I'm testing something. But it's nice to have it there so if a page looks odd, I don't have to go hunting for the cause. Not straight away, anyway :smile:

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    So... You like to keep it 'front and centre' so that you can easily find out if you accidentally changed it, because you would never change zoom level otherwise?

  • (disco) in reply to Mikael_Svahnberg

    What can I say? I like having useful info within a quick eye-flick :smile:

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    But but but... If you didn't have it so prominently visible, you wouldn't accidentally change it all the time, and then the zoom level would never be the cause of the problem you are looking for. Or am I missing something obvious here?

  • (disco) in reply to Mikael_Svahnberg
    Mikael_Svahnberg:
    Or am I missing something obvious here?
    Honestly, no idea; maybe I'm just a bit crazy :laughing: <!-- Emoji'd by MobileEmoji 0.2.0-->
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    NOREPRO: [image] All glory to the Unfuck Firefox extension (and, to an extent, Zoom Page)!

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    maybe I'm just a bit crazy :laughing:

    I wouldn't argue against this suggestion. ;P

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    I wouldn't argue against this suggestion. ;P
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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    As well you shouldn't!

    we're in IT. We're ALL crazy here.

    interestingly we're also all technically witches according to a still on the books but not enforced in the last 200 years Welch law. As is anyone who owns a cellphone, or uses a hybrid car, or a computer.... it's a very very old law, ok?

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    Welch law. As is anyone who owns a cellphone, or uses a hybrid car, or a computer.... it's a very very old law, ok?

    Those grape juice people must've been pretty forward thinking to outlaw all those things.

  • (disco) in reply to hungrier

    it's more a case of @accalia-ing the spellar of Welsh

    also the particular law, which i'm trying to look up now, deals with causing action at a distance using non-mechanical means (radio and electricity not having been well understood or discovered back then)

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