• (disco)

    :rofl:

    clever.

    also yeah marketing has a tendancy not to consult with IT until after they've already committed to whatever it is they want, regardless of wether it's a good idea or even possible.

  • (disco)

    Of course that's wrong. It should read "Take a <strong>", in vein with proper HTML5 practices.

  • (disco)

    Oh, to be a fly on the wall when the marketdroids find out their error… :rofl:

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    hmm... it would even have been more or less gramaticalifically correct if you include the implied (coffee|tea) from the fact it's printed on a mug. falls down a bit more in that respect on the other products it was printed on.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    It could kinda work on a t-shirt…

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    given the physique of most geeks i know who habitually wear t-shirts... not so much.

    :-P

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    Well, you know what they say about guys with big stomachs...

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    You don't have to look like Charles Atlas to be strong :stuck_out_tongue:

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    Well, you know what they say about guys with big stomachs...

    i know what we say about them on this side of the pond. I'm curious to hear what's said about them on your side of the pond though.

  • (disco)

    I'll add two things here.

    First off, the implication of the tag on the mug is that the boldness should be empty, of zero length, etc.

    Second, it sort of reminded me a bit of something that I saw a while back.

    For starters, "a while back" should be read as "almost 20 years ago". This is slightly important in the context of what followed.

    The company I worked at at the time, a now defunct producer of Token Ring networking gear (with sidelines in private-network ATM switches and Ethernet gear), decided to celebrate reaching 2000 employees (following acquisitions, natch) by issuing a T-shirt to all employees (one each, duh, not one for everybody). So far, so good.

    The problems became apparent almost immediately. For reasons known only to the organisers of this fiasco:

    1. They selected a long-sleeve design, which generated immediate problems because:
    2. They selected a rather generous version of size XL for everyone. I'm not a big guy (1.7 metres), but I have arms that would be suitable for a 6-footer, but even then, there were two inches of sleeve beyond my fingertips. It was like wearing a circus tent.
    3. They wanted to make a show of international unity among the employees, so the design on the chest of the shirt included the national flags of the 19 countries where the company had offices. So far, so good. This isn't the worst idea in the world, but it does require a certain care, which was sadly missing. One of those countries was South Africa, so of course, in 1996, they ordered two thousand T-shirts printed with the pre-1994 South African flag, the apartheid-era one...
  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    Marketing sure made a <b/> move here...

  • (disco)

    Opportunity missed for the dev to tell them it should be: take a <p/>

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    One of those countries was South Africa, so of course, in 1996, they ordered two thousand T-shirts printed with the pre-1994 South African flag, the apartheid-era one...

    Something something whitespace.

  • (disco) in reply to Hanzo
    Hanzo:
    Opportunity missed for the dev to tell them it should be: take a <p/>

    Try "Take a <script>alert("XSS!");</script>" - you get a cool mug and a free pentest!


    Filed under: take a class="fa-spin"

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    That they drink a lot of beer? Or are you thinking of guys with big feet?

  • (disco)

    "<b/>"? Well, at least it's XHTMUG-compliant.

    Also, this WTF is missing the best part—what if any fallout was there?

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    now defunct
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    South Africa

    Well, there's your problem

  • (disco) in reply to Vault_Dweller
    Vault_Dweller:
    Well, there's your problem

    OK. This disco thing is not letting me select the whole message. Never mind.

    As a South African I can tell you I don't really care for either the old or the new flag.

  • (disco) in reply to Jerome_Viveiros
    Jerome_Viveiros:
    As a South African I can tell you I don't really care for either the old or the new flag.

    Based on that statement alone you are obviously whi- I mean, "previously advantaged". Your profile pic seems to confirm.

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    Not the first nor the last to make that error.

    [image]
  • (disco)

    Should have convinced marketing that "Take a';DROP TABLE marketing; SELECT * FROM userinfo WHERE 't' = 't'" is a better slogan.

  • (disco)

    To **<b/>**ly go where no man marketdroid has gone before.

  • (disco)

    Aha, I think I've found TRWTF:

    ... Evan couldn’t even think of any marketers or computer folk who had regular social contact with one another.

    Well, maybe that’s about to change, he thought with another smirking look at his new mug. ...

    There is only one reason to smirk, and that's when one is onto a sure thing. Now come on. Kelly's a morning person. Evan's a computer programmer. This is supposed to be a relationship made in heaven? Get real!

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    I remember working on the Point Of Sale system for a retailer when someone from marketing introduced us to their "We'll pay your sales tax" promotion, without asking how long it would take to implement, and giving us a few days to do the impossible. We outfoxed them though, asking "have you cleared this with Legal?" after which, they discovered, that their promotion was NOT legal. Never heard anything about that promotion again for the rest of year that I worked there.

  • (disco) in reply to DJSpudplucker
    DJSpudplucker:
    "We'll pay your sales tax" promotion

    i saw one of those in the wild recently. the store listed prices "including tax" with the actual price ant the tax amount on the label too.

    basically they just carefully picked the price points for everything such that after tax it came out to an even dollar (or occasionally 50c) point. and then they did the math for you.

    it was cool. but they stopped doing that. i'm wondering if the tax man got after them for something to do with that deal?

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    This is where it works so much better over here: all prices here are inclusive of VAT :smile:

    …OK, there are a few exceptions, but they're always clearly labelled as excluding VAT. Plus they usually have the including-VAT price alongside anyway.

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    Wouldn't be surprised if it's similar to here - in any shop targeting the general public the most prominently listed price must be including tax. I believe there's also a 'reasonable quantity' clause - no advertising gas in half-liters.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    i'm wondering if the tax man got after them for something to do with that deal?

    I'm not sure why they would. I see that a lot. There is one furniture store near me that seems to be having a "We pay the tax" sale every time I drive by it. One time, many years ago, I had a part-time business (too little time, too little business), so I am somewhat familiar with the sales tax forms businesses have to file (at that time in that state, at least). Fundamentally, the sales tax return is pretty simple: How much did you sell? Send us $taxRate % of that1. Presumably, you collected that from your customers, but if you're paying it out of your own pocket, the state had no way of knowing, much less caring.

    1Reality is more complicated than that, of course. $taxRate may not be constant. There are adjustments for things that are tax exempt, for any of various raisins, and for things that you bought but didn't pay tax on.

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    various raisins
    Well darn, you can't get drunk on raisins...
  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra
    Tsaukpaetra:
    you can't get drunk on raisins
    Liquidise and ferment them first ;)
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    Tsaukpaetra:
    you can't get drunk on raisins
    Liquidise and ferment them first ;)

    Or just stick them in rectified spirit/vodka. That works with everything, from fruits through amber up to bison grass tainted with wisent piss.

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    I'd think it'll kind of give different meaning if weared by a girl. :P

  • (disco) in reply to YellowOnline

    Even the flags that are technically correct don't match.

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    I'll add two things here.

    ... (snip the rest, it's not important here)

    Hmm. That post earned me a "Nice Post" badge ***and*** a "Mediocre Poster" badge. Interesting. So I looked at the published conditions, and these two badges appear to have identical conditions, so you get both or neither, every time.

    Dudes, sort your shit out!

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    So I looked at the published conditions, and these two badges appear to have identical conditions, so you get both or neither, every time.
    Try posting in t/1000 sometime :stuck_out_tongue:
  • (disco) in reply to PleegWat
    PleegWat:
    Wouldn't be surprised if it's similar to here - in any shop targeting the general public the most prominently listed price must be including tax.
    Maybe it's changed, but probably not. When I lived in the US (upstate NY, MA, and southern NH, all in the 80s), stores displayed the without-tax price. Of course, in NH, there's no difference between the with-tax and without-tax prices because there isn't (wasn't) any sales tax. The key point is that in the US, you have ***sales tax***, while in the UK (and the rest of the EU for that matter), it is a ***value-added tax*** which is a very different animal, even if the result appears similar.

    Sales tax is a tax on the transaction itself, and thus does not form part of the price. Value-added tax is a tax on, duh, the value added at each stage of the production-and-distribution chain, and therefore does form part of the price. Each intermediate stage (e.g. manufacturer, wholesalers, and retailer) notionally pays VAT to the stage before and collects it from the stage after, claiming back the VAT it paid so that each addition of value is taxed one time, net. It's notional because it is only really collected by the retailer, except for capital expenditures by intermediate stages, where it can get complicated. And the reality is more complicated than that, of course, with goods being on different rates depending on what they are, and some things being VAT-taxable at zero percent (e.g. books in the UK) while others are VAT-exempt. (Yes, zero-rated and exempt are not the same thing.) Where it gets really complicated are e.g. books with CD-ROMs, because while the book is zero-rated, the CD-ROM is not, so the pre-tax price has to be broken into this part for the book (zero-rated) and that part for the CD-ROM (full-rated). In practice, the publishers usually say that the CD-ROM's taxable value is zero, to keep everybody's life simple.

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    every time.

    BZZZT!

    The point is, we apparently can't change when the "Nice post" badge is awarded. So we rolled our own that excludes t/1000, so that people can track their proper good posts without t/1000 noise.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    http://geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2009/03/2009-03-03-t-1000.jpg

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    basically they just carefully picked the price points for everything such that after tax it came out to an even dollar (or occasionally 50c) point. and then they did the math for you.

    I worked at shoe store for a while, and they figured out that $1 phat shoelaces we're killing their profits.

    After school kids would be buying laces, but the fussing with change meant that the place filled up with kids everywhere, and everything between register and the door was walking out of the store by itself....

    Made the laces .95 – $1 with tax – and every sale was bing-bang-boom and everybody happy.


    :wtf: a happy ending?

  • (disco) in reply to PleegWat
    PleegWat:
    I believe there's also a 'reasonable quantity' clause - no advertising gas in half-liters.
    Reminds me of something funny. In Poland, it used to be optional to include "per kg" price on prepackaged products (e.g. 1.5-liter bottles of water), but it changed quite a few years ago to be mandatory - so when you buy ham in 547g package, it has total price, mass, and price per kg.

    Or 100g. Or 10kg. Or anything TBH. I've once seen a supermarket that on some drinks, the per-volume price was in milliliters! And because a liter bottle is 3zł and something, the per-volume price was 0.00zł/ml...

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    Of course that's wrong. It should read "Take a <strong>", in vein with proper HTML5 practices.

    Then it would make sense. Who would want a non-strong coffee anyway?

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    Each intermediate stage (e.g. manufacturer, wholesalers, and retailer) notionally pays VAT to the stage before and collects it from the stage after
    Unless it doesn't. See reverse charge.
  • (disco) in reply to ijij
    ijij:
    we're

    :wtf:

    post.json:1: Illegal word in statement
             $1 phat shoelaces we're killing their profits
                               ^
    
  • (disco) in reply to sloosecannon
    sloosecannon:
    ijij:
    we're

    :wtf:

    post.json:1: Illegal word in statement
             $1 phat shoelaces we're killing their profits
                               ^
    

    :sigh.cob:

    I've been trying to avoid leaving words... now I am in too much...


    Filed under: time to adjuwt typing meds

  • (disco) in reply to ijij

    You can't properly escape stupid.

  • (disco) in reply to xaade
    xaade:
    You can't properly escape stupid.

    ...and I can't get away from my fat fingers.


    Filed under: "... I don't have to outrun the bear... "

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    Hmm. That post earned me a "Nice Post" badge and a "Mediocre Poster" badge. Interesting. So I looked at the published conditions, and these two badges appear to have identical conditions, so you get both or neither, every time.

    Dudes, sort your shit out!

    Nothing to sort out.

    [image]

    Badges with the highlighted text are custom to WTDWTF.

  • (disco) in reply to sloosecannon

    To break'ly go?

  • (disco) in reply to Zylon

    Hotlink-protected.

  • (disco)

    inb4 GTFO to Meta with your badgers

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